I got them from a friend of an aqquaintance(sry its spelled wrong) at a speciality store in my area. Oh i plan on it! im getting my money back on all the unhealthy ones AND they fish i never recieved. I want better fish but i dont think they have any more….. the fish didnt come frmo a supplier, just a guys thats been keeping fish fro a long time in their aquarium club. Oh dont worry, i would NEVER breed an unfit fish, i study alot of genetics in school so i know what happens…..the people who do that are cruel. :cry: The good news is that one fish is very healthy and active (he must of been hiding yesterday) and he also has the potential for great colors when they come in.