Looking for an updated CPD breeding methodology

[Mikolas]

Hey guys, I’m new to breeding and this will be my first attempt, I hope to be able to do well. I’m really excited and I’m a perfectionist so I want to do this right in every aspect possible.

Thus, before I gather my things, I’d like to see how you guys do things to find the most efficient manner.

I have 2x 10 gallon tanks at my disposal, and I can easily get 20s or 5s if they are preferred. I purchased a large pyrex with plastic canvas for ballpc’s diy egg trap, though I’m not sure it’s the same size he has.

I’ve done extensive reading through this forum and other forums on best methodologies, but none seems to be consistent as they continue to change over time, so I am somewhat flustered. Please teach me a step by step procedure that will ensure the best results.

Also, I was wondering how long does it take for them to reach a healthy enough size to be able to transport them/transfer them into new homes, without sustaining casualties? My reasons for attempting breeding are threefold; first is for the experience, the next level of fish keeping, second is to make some money back as I have spent too much money on my fish keeping hobbies for a college student (my mom almost disowned me, no joke), and third is that I’m aware this fish has been over harvested in certain areas and there aren’t enough breeding projects being done, so I’d like to reduce this problem at least locally.

How much do you guys sell this to at local pet stores, a guy told me 40 cents, but that sounds pretty shady.

Additionally, I have no clue on fry feeding, there seems to be so many combinations ranging from “green water” (which I’m still not quite sure what that is), to baby brine shrimp, that the microorganisms from java moss will be sufficient, etc, so again, I’m confused as to what is the best thing to do (that is preferably easier to access).

Please also list the maintenance that you guys do, how much % water change and how often, heater or no heater (this also seems to be a debate) and temperature, and what is the best sponge filter to buy? From what I understand, hydro is the best, but I’m not sure if it’s ok to overdose on the sponge filter strength like I would for normal tanks. Is Hydro III ok? (meant for 40 gallons).

Thanks for any assistance guys, I apologize in advanced for my confusion concerning breeding as I am new.

[snail]

Let us know how things go. I am still in the research stage myself from what I gather as with other egg layers there are many ways to go about breeding CPDs. As you have been doing read as much as you can and ask questions see what has worked the best for others and then apply that to your circumstances. A lot depends on the time, money, space, number of tanks etc you have to put into the project and how many fry you want in the long run. And of course what ever methods you use there is going to be plenty of trial and error.

[MChambers]

@Mikolas wrote:

Hey guys, I’m new to breeding and this will be my first attempt, I hope to be able to do well. I’m really excited and I’m a perfectionist so I want to do this right in every aspect possible.

Thus, before I gather my things, I’d like to see how you guys do things to find the most efficient manner.

I have 2x 10 gallon tanks at my disposal, and I can easily get 20s or 5s if they are preferred. I purchased a large pyrex with plastic canvas for ballpc’s diy egg trap, though I’m not sure it’s the same size he has.

I’ve done extensive reading through this forum and other forums on best methodologies, but none seems to be consistent as they continue to change over time, so I am somewhat flustered. Please teach me a step by step procedure that will ensure the best results.

Also, I was wondering how long does it take for them to reach a healthy enough size to be able to transport them/transfer them into new homes, without sustaining casualties? My reasons for attempting breeding are threefold; first is for the experience, the next level of fish keeping, second is to make some money back as I have spent too much money on my fish keeping hobbies for a college student (my mom almost disowned me, no joke), and third is that I’m aware this fish has been over harvested in certain areas and there aren’t enough breeding projects being done, so I’d like to reduce this problem at least locally.

How much do you guys sell this to at local pet stores, a guy told me 40 cents, but that sounds pretty shady.

Additionally, I have no clue on fry feeding, there seems to be so many combinations ranging from “green water” (which I’m still not quite sure what that is), to baby brine shrimp, that the microorganisms from java moss will be sufficient, etc, so again, I’m confused as to what is the best thing to do (that is preferably easier to access).

Please also list the maintenance that you guys do, how much % water change and how often, heater or no heater (this also seems to be a debate) and temperature, and what is the best sponge filter to buy? From what I understand, hydro is the best, but I’m not sure if it’s ok to overdose on the sponge filter strength like I would for normal tanks. Is Hydro III ok? (meant for 40 gallons).

Thanks for any assistance guys, I apologize in advanced for my confusion concerning breeding as I am new.

You seem to be worried about the inconsistencies in methods. I actually think it tends to show that a lot of methods work and you should the ones that are easiest for you.

Personally, I keep my parents in a 10 gallon tank, heated to about 73F, change at least 50% of the water weekly, and feed a variety of flake food and microworms.

Every week, I swap out all the floating plants with those in my fry growout tank. This way, some of the eggs and fry escape being eaten. I feed the fry microworms and golden pearls (a type of fry food). They also feed on the microorganisms in the plants, I think. I change the water about twice a week (this is tricky, because the fry are so small).

I think they could be sold after two or three months, but I’m less certain about that.

[Mikolas]

Well, I am certainly aware that there are so many methods, but they seem to range from, getting maybe a few fries surviving over months, to hundreds in one spawning, I’m looking for the hundreds methodologies .

Thank you for your advice! Looking for more thoughts!

[snail]

If you want hundreds then you want multiple tanks where you remove the parents after they spawn and raise that generation of fry in their own tank (rubber maid tubs or buckets could also work). You’ll need to do lots of water changes and lots of java moss and live food will help.

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