Long-Finned variety?
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June 7, 2007 at 8:19 pm #10271celestialdudeParticipant
When do we get to see the Long-Finned Celestial Pearl Danio?
Check out the Long-Finned Zebra Danio:
http://images.google.com/images?um=1&tab=wi&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1B2GGGL_enCA177&q=long%20finned%20zebra%20danioJune 7, 2007 at 10:53 pm #11353atlantis_childParticipantWow, those would be pretty.
I once got a long-finned white cloud to go with my other white clouds, but it died a week after I got it of cottonmouth
June 28, 2007 at 7:38 pm #11515CrazedpufferParticipantThe other day I saw long finned glofish at the store. That was pretty cool. Wouldn’t surprise me if within this year we get longfinned CPDs
July 2, 2007 at 3:18 pm #11539atlantis_childParticipantI think within this years is a bit too soon. Afterall, they are really new still. I think most breeders are concerned enough with just increasing the population before they are bred for specific traits.
On the other hand, it would be best if better (is more colorful, bold, beautiful) fish were used for breeding rather than runts and so on. I have this small female in my tank that hasn’t colored up like the others and I suspect it’s because of her genes. I’ve had them long enough to know it’s not just because she’s young.
July 4, 2007 at 5:37 pm #11564celestialdudeParticipantTru dat!
November 15, 2007 at 1:46 am #12960TeelieParticipantI keep some Long-fin Zebras and they are more interesting than their short-finned brothers and sisters. I’d love to see these in long fin variety. It will probably be two or three years at the earliest before any are produced though. It takes time to breed those traits out.
November 15, 2007 at 2:13 am #12963atlantis_childParticipantI have a ‘zebra danio’ that has spots insted of stripes. Gorgeous girl. I found another like her. A young one I believe was male, but unfortunately he died during tank shifting and renovating. I wonder if the trait is heritable or not. Want to test it out some day. They are way cooler than normal ones.
Leopard Zebra Danios… Awesome!
– Atlantis
November 15, 2007 at 3:51 am #12964TeelieParticipantLeopard Danios are actually a morph of Zebra, depending on who you ask. There’s apparently some debate as to whether it’s a unique breed or not. I do know they readily and easily can cross breed fertile offspring which lends some credence to the possiibility.
November 15, 2007 at 8:13 am #12966atlantis_childParticipantCool I’d love to have a herd!
– Atlantis
November 15, 2007 at 8:14 am #12967L777ParticipantI’ve also read that leopards are just a color morph that kicks out at low probability, but haven’t bred them myself to see it happen.
As for the long-fins (and other mutations!), we’re all keeping our eyes peeled for remarkable variants that appear in our broods!! Maybe someone from our group will be able to win that breeders’ race?
November 16, 2007 at 11:04 am #12974mummymonkeyParticipantEvolution has crafted a beautiful and rare creature for us to admire. No alteration by man could improve on it.
November 16, 2007 at 7:43 pm #12976TeelieParticipantBut man is vain and arrogant and we think we can, and sometimes do accomplish better than nature does though usually at a price.
November 19, 2007 at 3:26 pm #12992L777ParticipantAnd after all, a breeder can’t make any real claim to “producing” a mutation or new variant that suddenly appears in their tank through normal, nature-al, evolutionary processes anyhow, eh? (Other than giving the adults a comfy home to do their thing, and then playing a hand in the selection process. Transgenics aside perhaps.) The arrogance is rather in the claim to having “created”, not in our participation in the creative activity. If it is arrogant for humans to shape, using selection, the physical appearance of a new fish variation, then it must also be arrogant for humans to “breed” (better said as “provide suitable conditions for breeding”) the natural forms — to follow this argument, what right do we have to interfere with these natural processes at all?.
Humans still are part of nature and the natural ecology, despite our destructive habits, and despite our tendency to think we are not. By definition then, our actions are natural actions, even if they seem contrary to strange misconceptions about a supposed “peaceable animal kingdom.” The living web co-evolved together, with each species necessarily shaped by the species around them, and we are simply a recent member added to that interplay. The only really new difference now that humans are here is the apparent inability of the rest of the ecology to moderate our (far too often negative) interactions with it. Our role in the ongoing evolution of the creatures around us is not something apart from nature or natural processes, it is in fact simply part of it. Our role in the present mass extinction, on the other hand, is I think unconscionable.
November 22, 2007 at 8:54 pm #13001ste12000ParticipantYou wont be seeing any long finned CPD’S or anything else coming from my fishroom..I hate how breeders breed from a deformed mutation and then line breed them from generation to generation to fix the strain so that they breed 100% true, these fish are worthless runts that need to be culled, these kinds of deformed fish never survive in the wild for one simple reason, deformed long finned or balloon fish are incapable of competing for food or breeding partners in the wild.
I think most true fish breeders think along these lines that you should not breed from deformed stock.November 22, 2007 at 9:05 pm #13002celestialdudeParticipantHmm… yes you are right Ste. Bred varities should not have features which cause handicaps. Same thing with dogs and cats, there are really some lame breeds out there. I think the safest variations we can have are perhaps color and patterning; nothing structural or morphological.
Like a Celestial with blue stripes instead of red!! Haha…
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