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  • #10259
    tan
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    ok, here’s the story…..i have a 28 US gal tank. loads of plants incl java moss. 23C, zero ammonia and nitrite and 5-10 nitrate. 20% water change every week. i feed them live daphnia every morning 6 days out of 7 and some baby brine shrimp 3 times a week aswell as a treat and a few flakes every night. 10 cpd’s in there about a 2 to 1 ratio of girls to boys. i’ve seen the circling and jiggy bit, but no eggs/fry. i got 4 on 31 march and 6 more to attempt breeding when heard about the crisis on 13 april. however it seems i am failing to breed them. is it just a matter of time or is there something fundamently wrong with the set up. how long is everyone else having lights on per day? do i have too much airation (airstone and airline through filter) is the current too strong from the filter? what are you successful breeders feeding yours? i really have no idea what else i can change. i’ve turned the airstone off to give one side of the tank a bit more calm (more like their lake they probably came from). ANY suggestions at all. i am getting quite concerned i am failing these precious fish. :cry:

    #11255
    chr15_8
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    i think you need to just wait tbh

    i dont do nothing special for them. i feed the a pack of enriched brine shrimp from maidenhead aquatics once a day 7 days a week i have an eheim ecco 2332 at half flow on a 15 uk gallon tank (sorry not to sure on the flow rate) with is returned through a spray bar which is positioned under water (also i dont add any oxygen from pumps)

    i canrnt remember doing a water change except refilling the tank every week/other week.

    water is at 22c

    i have my lights on from 7 in the morning (weekends whenever i get up) and off whenever i go bed normally 10 but sometimes it could be 1( normally weekends again)

    as i said im sure you will get some soon i felt exactly like you wheni had to wait about 3 months for mine!

    #11256
    atlantis_child
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    Yeh, waiting sucks. Mine have been all colorful and dancing around and chasing each other for weeks, but still no fry. All I can do now is peer around the tank hopefully every time I get a chance.

    #11285
    tan
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    @chr15_8 wrote:

    i think you need to just wait tbh
    as i said im sure you will get some soon i felt exactly like you wheni had to wait about 3 months for mine!

    thanks! my set up is much the same as yours then really! looks like a 3 month wait for mine too! i am so impatient though! just 1 fry a day would make me ecstatic!!! :D

    #11286
    tan
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    @atlantis_child wrote:

    Yeh, waiting sucks. Mine have been all colorful and dancing around and chasing each other for weeks, but still no fry. All I can do now is peer around the tank hopefully every time I get a chance.

    yep! thats me!! keeping to the same routine, and hopefully searching the tank a few times a day whenever i get a minute and every slight movement i see in the plants i examine only to be disappointed to discover its just a surviving daphnia :roll: ! good luck. lets hope we join the gang of breeders soon eh!

    #11287
    chr15_8
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    i dont actually have a routine

    if i forget to feed them one day ill just feed them as normal the next day

    if you think in the wild they might be lucky to get some food where as others there might be lots kicking about

    as i said i dont really do any maintaince on the tank except top up

    just want to make sure. you dont vacum the gravel at all do you?

    chris

    #11290
    atlantis_child
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    just want to make sure. you dont vacum the gravel at all do you?

    Personally I don’t. I gots sand. Don’t think that can be vacumed at all…

    #11292
    chr15_8
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    @atlantis_child wrote:

    just want to make sure. you dont vacum the gravel at all do you?

    Personally I don’t. I gots sand. Don’t think that can be vacumed at all…

    good

    if you think about it reports say that the eggs arnt sticky so they would (i presume) 75% of them will fall through and land on the gravel/sand therefor vacuming it will remove the eggs etc

    just my theory anyway

    chris

    #11301
    tan
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    no, i dont do anything with the gravel. just syphon a bucket of water off the top every week and put some fresh water in to keep the nitrates as low as poss :wink: . i rinse out the filter in the used tank water as it clogs up and doesnt work properly every week. if the filter is still working fine i dont touch it.

    #11302
    chr15_8
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    @tan wrote:

    no, i dont do anything with the gravel. just syphon a bucket of water off the top every week and put some fresh water in to keep the nitrates as low as poss :wink: . i rinse out the filter in the used tank water as it clogs up and doesnt work properly every week. if the filter is still working fine i dont touch it.

    thats good (can see the reason above your post)

    when you syphon the water do you just use abit of pipe/hosepipe?

    chris

    #11306
    tan
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    @chr15_8 wrote:

    when you syphon the water do you just use abit of pipe/hosepipe?

    chris

    i use these bulb syphon things i got on ebay!! squeeze the bulb a few times then the vacuum creates the flow of water. works ok for a while then you have to actually continually pump it as the tank is only a few inches off the ground :( . same when feeding the water back in. narrow gap for access to the top of the tank too, so using a jug isnt possible. :(
    another reason for keeping any maintenance to that tank to a minimum! i hate it as its really awkward to get to! cant do without it though! i still love my tanks..awkward and all! :D i guess minimal disturbance should be a plus….not interupting any copulation!!

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