feeding baby’s

[chr15_8]

what should i feed my babies?

i was thinking liquidfry for egg layers? or fry powder? but they look to small for the power

anyway what do you feed them?

thanks
chris

[zzyzx]

In my tank I put:

Liquifry for the babies…

For the adults (and the larger babies, I rotate between)
Frozen baby brine shrimp
Crushed tetraflake
Hikari micropellets.

My fry are -definitely- eating -something- because they’re noticeably growing in size, so something about this food pattern is working.

[atlantis_child]

What exactly is in the liquifry stuff that they eat? And does it go everywhere in the tank, or do the fry have to come to it, or what? : How does it work?

[chr15_8]

@atlantis_child wrote:

What exactly is in the liquifry stuff that they eat? And does it go everywhere in the tank, or do the fry have to come to it, or what? : How does it work?

its made by interpet over hear (in england)

not sure if you can get it anywere else it might be called something else

thanks zzyzx how do you use it like atlantis_child asked?

chris

[zzyzx]

Liquifry is a thick white liquid that comes in a dropper-bottle. From reading the labels/bottles, it contains dextrin, pea flour, whole egg, and yeast.

I found that if I hold the bottle just a mm or two above the water line when creating the drops, the drops will momentarily stay at the surface, and then once the surface tension has been broken, diffuse into millions of small little drops which spread around the tank. If you drop it from a height, the liquifry stays as a single drop which sinks to the bottom of the tank and tends to stay there for a while. I suspect the former approach is better. The tank water goes cloudy for a few hours as the nutrients go all over the tank.

The fry at first are FAR too small to observe whether or not they’re actually eating these droplets, but I guess they are.

The other thing that the label claims is that these nutrients will cause other microbes to grow (called “infusoria”), which the baby fish also eat. (Again, you can’t observe it because, well, they’re microscopic!). I -have- noticed that a few weeks after using Nutrifry, I now see (in the mornings when I first switch on the lamp), tiny little white worms crawling over the glass of the tank. I believe these are planaria, which again, the fish are supposed to like eating. Apparently planaria exist pretty much wherever you have fish and you probably already have some in your tank. The liquifry helps them multiply, and then become fish-food.

The label suggests that you should start putting liqui-fry into your tank BEFORE you have fry (as soon as you see eggs, it says, but with the CPD’s, you’re probably NOT going to see eggs). This is presumably so that the microbes are already thriving by the time the fry need them. I didn’t do that, but I suspect that if you see your fish making “spawning dances”, then a little liquifry might not hurt anything and get the tank ready for when you DO have fry.

[albatross]

I have found that feeding a combination of different foods ( live/frozen and flake ) gives the best results. LIVE FOOD Micro worm and Paramecia FROZEN FOOD Cyclops FLAKE FOOD Liquifry No3 I also use Liquifry No 1 to seed the tank prior to spawning This encourages infusoria so that when fry reach free swimming stage there is some food available

[atlantis_child]

Just out of curiousity, where do you get your live micro worms and paramecia? Your local petstore or some where else…?

– Atlantis Child

[ste12000]

I got my microworm culture from Ebay!!! The seller was in england but im sure if you sent a nice email they would post over to you. If you are interested in some i could send to you? Let me know.
Beware if you culture them in a house you share with either family or friends…THEY CAN STINK.
Mine are in the shed and are great at keeping the kids out of the fishroom :lol: .
I say that but my six year old daughter loves fish and aquariums and asked for her own for christmas, she helps me with feeding and waterchanges, my son however is not interested at all, he has been into the fishroom about twice i think, both times he moaned about the heat and disappeared sharpish.

[albatross]

Sorry for the delay in answering I got my live foods Micro worm and Paramecia from a friend of mine. He doesn’t normally part with any cultures but as i explained the situation regarding these fish he kindly consented to give me some. ste12000 is right in what he say’s the micro worm culture does smell a bit, but it is worth it as i watch my fry eagerly hunt the tiny worms.

[chungck]

Hi guys,

I have also a microworm culture, but not with milk and oats after a while this culture does stinks a lot :shock:

But I ‘ve got from another forum a better solution and that is with coffeegrounds or mud ( the result you got after drinking coffee…this grounds or mud must first get dry when we go to used it ) and BEER, yes indeed a few drops of BEER….:lol:

coffeegrounds or mud ( well dried ) with some beer and offcourse a some microworm…..and after a week…….yes a lot of microworms and it doesn’t smell at all…..

IT WORKS…..:wink:

Just try it…..

When the cuture dried out put a few drops of :lol: , :lol: , BEER to this culture

[L777]

Having just rinsed out a tray of 6-week old microworm culture — growing fur and strong enough to make a yak puke! — this culture sounds very interesting. Have you used it long enough to know how long it lasts until it need to be changed out? Whether you get as many worms from it?

[chungck]

Hi L777,

The culture that i’m using now is at least 4 weeks old and I can tell you there’s a lot worms in it.

The forum where I found this , says you can used one culture a least for 6 months :lol:

This type of culture start slow, after 2 weeks you will see a lot of worms and you can used it for 6 months and one and most important thing it doesn’t SMELL ( or let say it don’t stinks )

Last thursday ( 10 January ) I started a second culture…

[L777]

Chungck,
I have to admit I’m a little skeptical, but your experience sounds convincing. You said the recipe was coffee grounds and a little beer, but I’m not sure whether the grounds need to be dried then re-wet. Here’s what I think I’ll try (tell me if I get something wrong):

1. put moist coffee grounds from coffee maker in a shallow plastic tub with lid
2. add a ml or so of beer and mix together
3. skim a few teaspoons of my old microworm culture (will contain some of the “dry cereal flake + brewer’s yeast + active yeast + tap water” medium I’m using now) off the surface and add to the coffee/beer mix

(4. as necessary to keep moist, add a few drops of beer to the culture)

Do you keep your culture thick or runny?

[chungck]

Hi L777,

1. the coffee grounds must be used because…..its to strong to make a
culture from it……

2. Before we gonna used it, let the used coffeegrounds dried well, I don’t
no why….but the forum says so…….

3. We need only 3 things…..dried used coffeegrounds, some beer
( not much ) and some old microworms culture

4. the moist of coffeegrounds and beer must not too thick but a little
runny , than we add some microworms in it ( try to used
only the microworms without the white milky substance ) otherwise you
got the ugly smell again….do you know what this culture smell
like…sweet beer…:lol:

5. And wait…..

I will make some pictures ……then you can see the results….

[L777]

Got it. Thanks for all the info. Looking forward to the pictures!

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