Different breeding methods
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Hello everybody,
I would first like to say that it is just awesome that there is a website already that is devoted to this beautiful fish. It makes me wonder how many more fish are out there in the world wating to be discovered. The reason that I am writing this is to find out if anyone has ever tried to breed CPD’s in a couple of different ways that I am about to mention. Unfortunetly I do not own any CPD’s yet and if anyone has any for sale at a reasonable price I would love to buy some. Anyways I have been breeding danios my whole life. I have bred blue, leopard, gold, giant, zebra, pearl, and glo-fish. I am probably leaving a couple of different varieties out. It didn’t matter if they were long finned or short finned I have bred them all in one of these two different ways: 1) I place about 6 of them into a plastic breeding trap usually used for livebearing fish such as guppys, swordtails, etc. I have already prepared a 10 gallon aquaruium with nothing in it but a sponge filter and a heater if needed. I then just leave them alone and when I wake up the next morning I run into my fishroom and look in the breeding tank to discover sometimes over 500 eggs on the bottom of the tank. That number is always based on how well I conditioned the fish before hand. I then simply remove the breeding trap with the parents in it back to their community tank and wait for the eggs to hatch for their first taste of infurosia, walterworms, and BBS. 2) The second method I use is also very simple. First I fill a 10 gallon tank up half way full of water. I then take a tupre ware container and fill it with about 2 to 3 inches of marbles so that the parents can’t get to the eggs. I place the container on the bottom of the bare tank. Once again the only other things that should be in the tank are a sponge filter and a heater if needed. I then add the well conditioned parents in, usually anywhere from 6 to 20. After the second day I then remove the container of marbles very carefully being sure not to spill any thing from inside the container into the aquarium. I then carefully remove the marbles so I can get an idea of how many eggs I have gotten from this spawn. I then remove the parents from the breeding tank and place the container of eggs back in making sure there is not a large temperature difference in the water from the container and the water in the tank. Then I just wait a couple of days and wah-la baby danios everywhere. Both of these methods have worked very well for me ever since I was a child. Anyone who is willing to try one of these methods or has already tried it with the CPDs please let me know how it goes. I plan on trying both of these methods myself as soon as I can get my hands on some of these amazing fish. Once again anyone who has some for sale at a reasonable price feel free to contact me at Lasseter1113@yahoo.com.Tanks-a-lot!!!
Thanks for sharing, Lasseter. Just curious, but in the community tank, are they separated by sex? Wondering why they would want to suddenly breed in the breeding tank vs. the regular community tank — is it because it is a smaller space and everyone’s more cosy? Or, are they always breeding anyways, just that the breeding tank allows you to capture the eggs? Tx again for sharing your experience on breeding danios.
The answer is yes, they are always breeding anyways no matter where they are at, it is just like you said the breeding tank simply allows you to catch the eggs. I would suggest to anyone wanting to start breeding fish to go with the zebra danio first. They are a very hardy, very prolific species of fish which are easily bred. In fact if your community tank is well planted there is a good chance that one day you might wake up to find a few new editions to your tank. If you watch closely, especially in the morning you will see them chasing each other at the bottom of the tank. When the male finally does catch a female you will see them shimmer and shake side by side and them suddenly out of nowhere eggs will burst out all around the two fish. Then just as fast as they were created by the parents they are gobbled up by the parents or surrounding community fish. This is why it is important to use methods that keep the hungry parents out of reach of their newborn eggs. If anyone has anymore questions don’t hesitate to ask, I love every aspect of breeding and and taking care of these fish or any freshwater fish in general.
Welcome to the forum, i also have bred plenty of danio species before, do not expect 100’s of eggs from the celestials. at the most i have seen around 30 from a large spawn, other people may of had more but speaking from my own experience small broods are to be expected. Best bet would be to set up 5-6 small tanks, set up bare with a spawning grid and a woolen mop or java moss,with a trio in each (2 males 1 female) when they spawn(which isnt hard) tip all the small tanks into one larger one and raise them in the same container.
Hope you fine them soon and get a group of these lovely little fish.Gary,
welcome to the forum! Check out the publications section of the forum. The PDF article with the species description from early this year has some good information on the natural environment of these little beauties — always useful info for a breeder, eh? — and early breeding reports from a British aquarium.Ste, you mentioned last summer (http://www.celestialpearldanio.com/viewtopic.php?t=119) about the Bolton Aquarium pioneers getting up to 150 eggs per female. Did they mean total over a life-time, or per spawn (although “spawn” may be a bit difficult to define for shallow discharge and flow-through wetland continuous spawners…)?
I met Paul Dixon who works in the Bolton museum with Pete Liptrot, i received my females (six) from them and had a chat when they brought them up to me. He said that certain breeder’s they know had batches upto 150…After breeding them myself i am now very doubtful about this claim!! My females are now fully grown and when well fed and in breeding condition they are extreamly large and swollen with eggs, the largest spawn i had was around 50 eggs but most fungused, i am currently raising around 20-25 fry.
Fungused? What does that mean? They’re overgrown with fungus and don’t make it? Can that be prevented?
Yep thats right, fungused means the eggs turn white and dies. soon after spawning, usually they have not been fertilised but there may be other factors..
In fact its happened fairly often lately with different species, i have’nt really studied why eggs fungus so i might search with google and see what i can find.The species that have had really bad batches lately are…
Rams 60-65% white (fungus)
Celestials 25-40% white
Glowlight tetras 70-80% whiteOthers have spawned and hardly had any bad eggs.. Maybe im missing something?????
Lasseter1113 sorry for hyjacking your thread with my ramblings.A low dose of methyl blue, I think it is helps save eggs from fungusing.
There’s definately preventitive chemicals that can be put in for sure though.– Atlantis
I want to go serious with the trying to get my galaxies to breed. I only have 2F and 1M and limited resources at the moment. I was looking at a breeding trap, but don’t think these fish would go for it. They look awesome, but something just ain’t right for them, so the sit and wait things not working.
What do you recomend for these little guys? They’re in a planted 10 gallon with sand right now, but I can move things around, and if neccessary, attempt to try to convince my parents to use that 5 gallon I kinda promised not to use :roll: ( Hey, that was made while trying to convince them to let me have a 22, which I got
)Should I seperate the two genders for a while? I know there’s not many of each, but I could put them with my neons, possibly?
I’m going to get a brine shrimp hatchery, for my platy babies as well, so I’ll have those more at hand. My attempts at home-made ones have met with little success, and last time, dismal failure. Not sure the galaxies can even see the buggers, but oh well…
Help please? I’ve had enough waiting. It just ain’t working out. But what to do with these tiny fish…?
– Atlantis
OK speaking purely from a theoretical perspective regarding the fungus — I think if you have a healthy tank ecosystem then it stands to reason that the “good” bacteria will crowd out the bad bugs including the fungi. So this means going with the complete package of full-spectrum lighting, substrate and plants. I tend to avoid chemicals because I believe they’re not necessary — if they don’t exist in nature then they shouldn’t exist in the aquarium except under extreme, emergency/first-aid/short-term scenarios.
However, I’m still a novice fish breeder so that’s just my unproven 2 cents’. I don’t know if this fungusing of eggs is a normal thing even under the most ideal circumstances.
But yeah getting back on track… thanks again Lasseter for sharing your breeding methods.
Eeh. I’ll just stick my last post in it’s own thread, rather than potentially hijacking this one. So if you want to help me out, go there. Please?
– Atlantis
Celestial i do have good tank conditions, thats why i can get my fish to breed in the first place, i agree with you on the lack of chemicals in our tanks, apart from declorinator i do not use anything else except occassional carbon filtration. I also beleive for the majority of species it is a nightmare trying to raise fry in a fully planted setup, there is no room for any degree of control, with a bare tank or very limited decor the fry can be observed better and uneaten food is easily spotted and removed. The fish dont mind the bare tanks and they are a lot easier to keep clean and in good condition.
It has been awhile since my last post but I was wanting to let you guys know as with my killifish I use acriflavine with my danio eggs. This stuff as well as Methayne Blue don’t actually stop the eggs from turning bad. What they do is kill the fungus on the eggs that aren’t any good so that the fungus doesn’t spread to the good eggs. The only down side to Acriflavine is it turns your water yellow. It has been almost a year since my first post on here and I still haven’t gotten my hands on any CPD’s. As soon as I do I will return here and share my results from breeding. Btw, I do have about 1oooo glofish and counting. Those little fluorescent suckers are easy to breed as there cousins the zebra danio ( but they cost 5 times as much, go figure! ).
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