Breeding programs?
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Hello all,
I’m new to the site, but have a set of 9 adult (I assume wild caught) CPDs, and am hoping they breed. Because of the obvious threat these fish are under in the wild, and the possibility that the breeder community may need to sustain them (unless the farms keep them going?), I have two questions for the group:
1) does anyone know of any organized effort to “register” or otherwise track the lineages of the fish now in tanks?
2) in terms of trying to maintain a stock that remains as true as possible to the wild caught populations, how much variation have you all noticed among your fish? I have noticed quite a bit of individuality among the color patterns in the males’ anal fins in particular… should I be selecting for a certain body shape and coloration?If mine breed, I would be interested in swapping young with other successful breeders, to keep the diversity high.
Keeping my fingers crossed for some hatches,
– DeanAll I can say is, good luck with the breeding. It’s been a few monthes for me, with the right parameters and all, but no babies. Then again, some people have got them pretty quick…
– Atlantis
Hi L777,
Thanks for your post. To answer your questions :
1) does anyone know of any organized effort to “register” or otherwise track the lineages of the fish now in tanks?
Yes, one of the purposes of this site is to coordinate formalized breeding for this new species. However, no formal system is in place. In all honesty, even though I set up this site, I have no experience in breeding, but understand the concepts (from biology classes, covering genetics). At this point my own “wild” stock has had fry and I’ve given away the first batch. Am waiting for subsequent batches of fry.
I’m hoping that more experienced fish breeders will take the lead and suggest any kind of tracking system that would work as a “breeding program”. What is standard practice? Let me know and I will figure out the Web application for it.
At this point, with no formalized program in place, my gut feel is that individual breeders will (hopefully) track their own generations and swap young fish among themselves to maintain a healthy gene pool. However, it would be a good idea to put a formal program into place. Since we are still in the early stages of discovery of this species, it would be opportune to do this.
2) in terms of trying to maintain a stock that remains as true as possible to the wild caught populations, how much variation have you all noticed among your fish? I have noticed quite a bit of individuality among the color patterns in the males’ anal fins in particular… should I be selecting for a certain body shape and coloration?
That is another purpose of this site — to visually record as much as possible of this fish’s physical traits, to use as a reference point for breeders. One of our members Glenn has posted some excellent photos of this fish. I hope to see more photos of the “wild caught” generation posted, so if anyone has them, please do so.
Again thanks for your post, and I hope that you can suggest any ideas you have on breeding programs.
Welcome aboard!
I have started with wild males and tank bred females, so i should not have any inbreeding until the next generation comes along. I feel inbreeding should not be a problem for numerous generations unles bad stock is chosen..
When choosing breeding stock from your own tank raised fish you will know which from the batch are the quickest growing(there are always some that reach maturity before others) These should be brightly coloured and free from deformitys, sunken bellies seem to be common on all CPD’s in shops ive seen. Mine are really stocky now.
Mass bred fish in singapore and hong kong are more of a worry, they are spawned in huge pools in quantity and there is no or very little quality control.
I think it is our , private breeders, responsibility to produce the top quality breeding stock and swap between us the best specimins for future breeding.I now have 50 fry from my CPD’s and am going away for two days at the end of the month, i plan to set up 4 breeding tanks and place them in to spawn the day i go, with a bit of luck and peace and quiet i expect i should return to 4 tanks of eggs. Fingers crossed.
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