Babies at Last!

[BallAquatics]

@MChambers wrote:

@MoeBetta wrote:

To be honest, mine hate the egg traps.

I get almost no eggs in the traps, I’ve counted nine so far.

If I just put a clump of java moss in the corner I can usually vac out a bunch of eggs every three days.

I pick up moss slowly and keep it over the place it was, transfer it to the fry tank, vac the area where it was, an replace with a fresh clump. This has been my personally successful method, which is a bummer, because I was excited about that egg trap. Maybe it works better in a bare bottom.

Mine don’t seem to like the trap either, so I think I’m going back to just having moss and other floating plants (elodia, etc.) and swapping the plants out to a fry tank every week or so.

I certainly don’t want to hi-jack Aquagirl’s thread about her successful breeding project, but I think there is some confusion about the egg trap.

It was developed while trying to spawn Danio tinwini, a species I find much harder to coax into spawning than the CPD. It is also NOT my preferred method when spawning CPD’s.

Here’s the original egg trap article…
http://www.danionins.com/articles/diyeggtrap.html

When I set-up my CPD’s for spawning, I used a modified version of Monica’s set-up detailed in her post located in this thread…
http://www.celestialpearldanio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=855

Sorry for the intrusion here, but at sometime down the road, I didn’t want any future readers having mis-conceptions about using the “egg trap” for spawning CPD’s.

Dennis

[MChambers]

@Mikolas wrote:

Also, what have you done to keep the fry alive? I don’t know what to feed the three surprises that I have right now.

Thanks for your time.

Fry can survive on infusoria, so if you have plants like java moss in your tank, they probably will be fine. Finely crushed flake food is good, too.

I feed mine very small (0-50 micron) Golden Pearl fish food, from http://www.kensfish.com. Hikari First Bites, commonly at local fish stores, also probably would work.

I also keep a jar with lots of moss and plants near the tank, and feed an eyedropper of water into the tank a couple of times a day.

[Mikolas]

@MChambers wrote:

@Mikolas wrote:

Also, what have you done to keep the fry alive? I don’t know what to feed the three surprises that I have right now.

Thanks for your time.

Fry can survive on infusoria, so if you have plants like java moss in your tank, they probably will be fine. Finely crushed flake food is good, too.

I feed mine very small (0-50 micron) Golden Pearl fish food, from http://www.kensfish.com. Hikari First Bites, commonly at local fish stores, also probably would work.

I also keep a jar with lots of moss and plants near the tank, and feed an eyedropper of water into the tank a couple of times a day.

Thanks for the information. Though does your fry stay near the top of the tank? I’m not sure if this is regular behavior for them (they are about…. 1/3 the diameter of a dime).

[MChambers]

Yes, my fry tend to stay near the top of the tank, once they are swimming well, about 2-3 inches below surface.

[AquaGirl]

@BallAquatics wrote:

@MChambers wrote:

@MoeBetta wrote:

To be honest, mine hate the egg traps.

I get almost no eggs in the traps, I’ve counted nine so far.

If I just put a clump of java moss in the corner I can usually vac out a bunch of eggs every three days.

I pick up moss slowly and keep it over the place it was, transfer it to the fry tank, vac the area where it was, an replace with a fresh clump. This has been my personally successful method, which is a bummer, because I was excited about that egg trap. Maybe it works better in a bare bottom.

Mine don’t seem to like the trap either, so I think I’m going back to just having moss and other floating plants (elodia, etc.) and swapping the plants out to a fry tank every week or so.

I certainly don’t want to hi-jack Aquagirl’s thread about her successful breeding project, but I think there is some confusion about the egg trap.

It was developed while trying to spawn Danio tinwini, a species I find much harder to coax into spawning than the CPD. It is also NOT my preferred method when spawning CPD’s.

Here’s the original egg trap article…
http://www.danionins.com/articles/diyeggtrap.html

When I set-up my CPD’s for spawning, I used a modified version of Monica’s set-up detailed in her post located in this thread…
http://www.celestialpearldanio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=855

Sorry for the intrusion here, but at sometime down the road, I didn’t want any future readers having mis-conceptions about using the “egg trap” for spawning CPD’s.

Dennis

Hi Dennis,

So sorry that I miss understood or should I say that I am guilty of selective reading! :wink: No apology is ever needed for a correction! Thank you for the clarification.

[AquaGirl]

@Mikolas wrote:

Hey AquaGirl, I’m really glad that you’ve had much success on your celestial pearls.

I’ve recently begun to breed my own and I thought this project was unsuccessful (I was able to sex them about 2 months ago) until I found 3 fry swimming nearby the top of the tank today. I readjusted the 20 gallon long with a divider so that one side can house the fry and the other contains the adults. I’ve no clue how they successfully managed to breed (I had recently separated males from females for the past 2 weeks to condition them).

Thus, I was wondering if you can leave a more detailed layout of how your tank is setup, etc. The egg trap has been very unsuccessful for me since they don’t even bother to hang out at that level (they stay very low and get very timid around the egg trap glass).

Also, what have you done to keep the fry alive? I don’t know what to feed the three surprises that I have right now.

Thanks for your time.

Sorry for the delay on a reply! I needed to change my email address to receive reply notifications. :oops:

I re-tried a modified version of the egg trap. I used a small glass baking dish and some plastic craft canvas on the top. I collect eggs every day from the trap. I am wondering if the red color on the original Pyrex dish frightens them???? This dish is not as deep as the Pyrex one was. It took a few days for the CPD to use it but they haven’t stopped breeding yet.

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Here is a picture of my shrimp/fish room. The CPD tanks are on the far left hand side rack. The only tank on this rack that does not have CPD’s is the lowest one on the left hand side. You can see the dividers that I use on the 20g long on the second and third shelves. I have over 1700 babies from 16 adults. It is mid July and they are still breeding like crazy. I am now removing eggs from the bottom 20g tank and the ten gallon that is on the stand by itself. I add them to the 20g on the third row to let them hatch. Once they hatch I move them to the 5 1/2g tanks. When they are around 1/2 inch the move up to one of the ten gallon tanks on the top row.

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I use the bowl and the air line tubing to remove the eggs from the breeding tanks (see below photo). I use the turkey baster to remove any hatched fry into the smaller baby tanks. The first time I moved fry, using a net, they died. I think that they are too delicate to remove them with a net when they are newly hatched. I also use the air line tubing and bowl to suck up any babies that have hatched in the adults tank if they are hanging on the glass.

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If you have any questions or if I wasn’t clear please feel free to post.

[Tom2006]

GREAT set up…love your fish room!!!

[AquaGirl]

Thanks, Tom2006.

[benjamincvo]

Hello,

I know this post is a year old at least but I’m just starting out my breeding and was wondering about this egg trap conversation. I just bought all the supplies to make the DIY egg trap and then found this conversation saying that the egg trap was not developed for this and likely will not be successful. I was hoping I could get some updates on whether it’s worth bothering with them or not. Currently I have two 10 gallon (40 liter ish) tanks with air driven sponge filters and heaters (as I like my apartment cold). I am leaving the tanks bare bottomed and was planning on using the Pyrex dish wish java moss for them to spawn in. But if the results will be better most the time to move parents from tank to tank and just go without the trap then that’s probably what I’ll do. I’m trying to patiently do too much research because I’m waiting for the lfs to get my cpd’s in from an order. Any advice or updates on this topic would be great!

Thanks,

Ben

[isaisbreetai]

Ben,
My first attempt to breed CPDs was using a DIY breeding trap. While it caught some of the eggs, it missed some as well as the fish scatter the eggs around and near whatever vegitation they choose to spawn on. If you aren’t concerned with the number of fry you end up with then a breeding trap is fine in my opinion, if you are looking for greater numbers then I would suggest using one of the other methods discussed in this forum. Good luck to you and keep us in the know

[benjamincvo]

Thanks Isias,

I guess I’m breeding for numbers so I will consentrate my efforts on other methods.

Ben

[pbmax]

I use the same egg trap Aquagirl does on one half of a 10g tank with a divider down the middle. The only non-floating plants in the tank sit directly on the egg trap. This way my CPDs (and hopefully my tinwinis too) pretty much only spawn over the trap. My egg yields have been pretty good. I hatch them on the other side of the divider then I move all the free-swimmers to a grow-out tank with more infusoria. I moved 12 over just today…

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