20 g tank setup ..could you take a look? ETA: yay! frys!

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  • #10905
    Jiinx
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    Hi there
    I’m really excited to try and breed my CPd! I’m worried, though, that if I move my males and females that something may happen to them in the new tank and fall I’ll and die! :(

    I have two males and seven females. Should I move two females and one male?

    – is 20 g too big? Should I put a plastic canvas to make it smaller?
    – does temperature mater? Do they breed in warmer water?
    – do they need added salt in the water? I have salt in the main aquarium.
    – do i need to perform often water changes? I’ve been reading ppl doing breeding in a bucket..do you change the water
    There too?

    My one male chases the other male..should I be concerned? I don’t see any courting behavior.

    Thank you! I really want to get it rit!

    #15235
    BallAquatics
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    Hi Jinx, welcome to the forum. There are probably as many people spawning CPD’s as there are different ways to spawn them. I can’t speak for everyone, but here’s what works for me…
    @Jiinx wrote:

    I have two males and seven females. Should I move two females and one male?

    I normally use 1 male with 3 or 4 females.

    @Jiinx wrote:

    – is 20 g too big? Should I put a plastic canvas to make it smaller?

    I think when in a small group, like a small breeding group, that they prefer a smaller tank. That”s one of the reasons I use 5.5 gallon tanks for breeder set-ups.

    @Jiinx wrote:

    – does temperature mater? Do they breed in warmer water?

    With my fish it does. They spawn the best between high 60’s and mid 70’s. When it get up to 80 they don’t spawn at all. I do have some young fish that AquaGirl sent me that will spawn at warmer temps.

    @Jiinx wrote:

    – do they need added salt in the water? I have salt in the main aquarium.

    I don’t add salt for any of my danios, they are freshwater fish.

    @Jiinx wrote:

    – do i need to perform often water changes? I’ve been reading ppl doing breeding in a bucket..do you change the water There too?

    I only leave my breeders set-up for 5 to 7 days, not long enough for me to worry about doing a water change.

    @Jiinx wrote:

    My one male chases the other male..should I be concerned? I don’t see any courting behavior.

    That’s pretty normal behavior. I’ve heard people say the males can be very aggressive to each other, but I’ve never experienced that. They spare around but no one gets hurt, no torn fins or anything like that.

    Hope that helps. Maybe someone else will chime in with their experiences too?

    Dennis

    #15236
    Jiinx
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    Dennis,
    Thank you. That’s immensely helpful.

    May I ask another question? I read here that ppl place their CPds in their breeding tank separately for afew days to get acclimatize and then remove the plastic canvas afterwards. Would there be any merit to this?

    #15237
    BallAquatics
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    I don’t use plastic canvas in my breeder set-ups so I can’t be of much help on this one…

    Are they using it to separate the male from the females?

    Dennis

    #15238
    Jiinx
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    Yep! Would keeping them separate be of any use? Or just put them all together in a tank ready to go? :D

    Thanks Dennis!

    #15239
    BallAquatics
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    @Jiinx wrote:

    Would keeping them separate be of any use?

    Well back in the day we used to separate the sexes to condition them, or fatten them up in preparation for spawning. Also with many egg scattering fish you want to be sure they didn’t just spawn yesterday.

    CPD’s don’t spawn in typical danio fashion where eggs are scattered to and fro in one spawning event. Rather, they lay small clutches of eggs in moss or other vegetation. That said, I have never found it necessary to separate the sexes, but I can’t see where it wouldn’t do any harm either if that’s what you wanted to do.

    Dennis

    #15241
    Jiinx
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    Dennis!
    May I ask you another question? Just about to try breeding my lovely CPDs this weekend. Can a male guppy be in the same tank as them? Otherwise, I’ll separate the 20 G into two so the CPDs are on one side and the guppy on the other. Otherwise, I’d rather keep in all together. Guppy males chases all my female guppies in the main tank ..which I know is normal…but I don’t want a gazillion guppy babies.

    The 20 G has LOTs of plants so I’m hoping they feel comfortable. There’s also 10 shrimps in there..I sure hope they don’t eat CPD eggs. Do you know?

    #15243
    BallAquatics
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    I’ve never kept other fish in with breeders that I’m trying to spawn. I would find somewhere else for the guppy. :(

    Several years ago, I kept a lot of dwarf shrimp. I never noticed the shrimp eating any CPD eggs, but the adult CPD’s where not so kind to the baby shrimp. :twisted:

    Good luck & keep us posted.

    Dennis

    #15259
    Jiinx
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    Hey!!!
    I can officially say I can breed CPDs!! I have two that I can see!!! I’m floored. :) :) :)

    Dennis, or anyone, do you need to have a filter necessarily? I’m wondering if I should try breeding in a small betta tank with no filter for 5 days with a bunch of plants and moss. What do you think? And then dump the baby fries in the current tank that I used for breeding.

    yyaaaay!!!!! they are so tiny. It hurt my eyes just to search for them.

    #15260
    BallAquatics
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    Congratulations Jiinx! Well done.

    @Jiinx wrote:

    …do you need to have a filter necessarily?

    Necessarily, probably not if you closely monitor your water quality. I don’t run any tanks without one though. I like to have a small sponge filter in the breeder tanks. Works as biological filter, very gentle water movement keeps the water surface film free, and it provides a multitude of micro-fauna for the fry to feed on too!

    Dennis

    #15269
    Jiinx
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    thanks dennis!

    i have counted 12 frys now!!!

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