CPD’s, RCS & a 3 Gallon/11 Litre
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I’m not 100% sure whether I should be posting this here because I’m concerned both about breeding and habitat- but that’s neither here nor there.
So I’m getting my first CPD’s soon- I’m planning on getting three with 1 male and 2 females in order to facilitate any future breeding, but my main priority is whether or not I should cohabitate the trio with red cherry shrimp in a 11 litre/3 gallon tank?
I’ve purchased the Tom Deco 3 Gallon kit (as seen here: http://www.tomaquarium.com/prod_details.php?cat=27&p=54) and I’m hoping to have it as a planted tank.
Currently I’m not sure as to what substrate I’m planning on using (but I would prefer a dark one) and I’m planning on stocking up on maybe some java moss and some dwarf hairgrass (as I’ve already got about 5 marimo balls I’m planning on using as well).In regards to breeding, I’m considering using an old 0.5 gallon betta tank to house any fry that will hopefully spawn to avoid being eaten by both the adult CPD’s or the RCS- but I’m wondering how inhumane this would be?
Also, I’m wondering what I should do with fry after they’ve aged enough- ideally I would keep them all and own 345732958 CPD’s, but realistically, 3 in a 3 gallon tank is pushing it as is.
Has anyone had success with selling their CPD’s to their LFS? I’m planning on going and asking my 2 LFS soon whether they’d be willing to purchase or possibly trade in any, but in the scenario that they’re not I don’t want to go around euthanasing CPD’s and I don’t think I have enough willing friends to purchase so many
Before anyone asks me whether I’m getting ahead of myself, I most definitely am. I’m just trying to prepare for all possible outcomes to some extent, should anything occur
Hi czitta, welcome to the forum!
I’ve kept CPD’s with dwarf shrimp in the past with very good success. Back when I had lots of shrimp, I would keep them in all of my fry grow-out tanks because they are great for cleaning up and don’t pose any threat to the fish. When keeping shrimp with adult CPD’s though, my CPD’s would eat most all of the baby shrimp.
Here in the states I sell most all of my CPD fry on-line. They are still rather pricey here and the sad state of most of the imported fish make “home grown” fish look stellar! I’m located in a rather rural area and don’t have any LFS to try and sell to. None of my local “big box” pet stores will buy from the local hobbyists.
With plenty of moss, you shouldn’t have any problems getting your fish to spawn. Size wise, your 3 fish in a 3 gallon tank matches up with my breeder set-ups… 5 fish in 5 gallon tanks.
Best of luck with you breeding project! Keep us posted.
Dennis
@BallAquatics wrote:
Hi czitta, welcome to the forum!
I’ve kept CPD’s with dwarf shrimp in the past with very good success. Back when I had lots of shrimp, I would keep them in all of my fry grow-out tanks because they are great for cleaning up and don’t pose any threat to the fish. When keeping shrimp with adult CPD’s though, my CPD’s would eat most all of the baby shrimp.
Here in the states I sell most all of my CPD fry on-line. They are still rather pricey here and the sad state of most of the imported fish make “home grown” fish look stellar! I’m located in a rather rural area and don’t have any LFS to try and sell to. None of my local “big box” pet stores will buy from the local hobbyists.
With plenty of moss, you shouldn’t have any problems getting your fish to spawn. Size wise, your 3 fish in a 3 gallon tank matches up with my breeder set-ups… 5 fish in 5 gallon tanks.
Best of luck with you breeding project! Keep us posted.
Dennis
Thanks Dennis!
You’ve definitely settled my nerves about the tank size!!!However, in regards to selling or not selling offspring, how d’you go about it? As in, what mode of transport do you use and how do you package them appropriately? How much would you suggest selling them for?
Thank you, again
@czitta wrote:
However, in regards to selling or not selling offspring, how d’you go about it? As in, what mode of transport do you use and how do you package them appropriately? How much would you suggest selling them for?
I stared out selling to hobbyists around the online fish forums, it seems there is always someone interested in CPD’s and not able to get them in their area. I also offer them at my local fish club functions, (http://www.columbusfishclub.org), and list auctions on http://www.aquabid.com/.
I ship my fish using Priority Mail here in the states. It’s a great service that gets your post delivered in 2 to 3 days. I can only remember a few time that it’s taken 3 days for deliver though. I put the fish in Kordon Breathable bags and line the boxes with 1″ styrofoam insulation. If the weather is hot or cold, I’ll put cool or heat packs in the box as well.
As for pricing, the market will usually determine what they are worth. While they are not hard to spawn, they are more difficult than other danios to raise in quantity. I believe this is keeping the price up on these fish. They have never been available in my local area. Just for reference here’s a few online sellers prices.
http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=830+881+2768&pcatid=2768
http://www.azgardens.com/p-872-galaxy-rasbora.aspx
http://aquariumfish.net/catalog_pages/cyprinids/danios_for_sale.htm#top2Dennis
Ahhkay, thanks Dennis!
On another note, I haven’t cycled my tank yet and I don’t have any other tank medium to use to speed up the process. I do have a bottle of Tetra SafeStart 250ml that was given to me though, which I’ve read a lot about with positive reviews- but the instructions say to place all the fish in the tank and use the entire bottle and that the cycle usually takes about 7 days.
The LFS that I’m buying my danio’s and shrimp from really aren’t all that close and I don’t want any to perish (not so much because of the distance or price, but mainly because I’d feel terrible if they did. But those are definitely factors, too), but do you think that I should try it out anyway?I’ve never used the bacteria in a bottle before so I can’t offer any recommendation there.
I will say however, it has been my experience that fresh water dwarf shrimp do much better in a mature tank rather than a new set-up. They spend most of their time grazing on micro fauna growing in the tank, and this just isn’t present in a new set-up.
Back to the cycle… These days I really don’t cycle new tanks anymore. I just rob some materials from other tanks, fill with 50% old tank water, a handful of plants, and a sponge filter from an existing set-up and I’m good to go.
Dennis
I have used a similar product to cycle my tanks a couple of times, when I was “forced” to rescue toilet bound fish from people. What I find works best is to add the chemical to the tank before the fish and let it sit with filter running as long as possible (I would say at least an hour) then slowly acclimate the fish to the tank. I have almost no experiance with shrimp so I’m not sure how they will handle this.
Having said all this I do agree that the more you can add from an old tank (gravel, water, filter media) the better off you’ll be.
Good luck and let us know how it goes@isaisbreetai wrote:
I have used a similar product to cycle my tanks a couple of times, when I was “forced” to rescue toilet bound fish from people. What I find works best is to add the chemical to the tank before the fish and let it sit with filter running as long as possible (I would say at least an hour) then slowly acclimate the fish to the tank. I have almost no experiance with shrimp so I’m not sure how they will handle this.
Having said all this I do agree that the more you can add from an old tank (gravel, water, filter media) the better off you’ll be.
Good luck and let us know how it goesThanks- I’ll try it out!!!
Yeah, I’d use medium from another tank, but I don’t have access to anything. FML ;(
But I’m planning on buying my CPD’s & RCS in early December, so I’ve got time to look
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