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July 6, 2007 at 11:59 pm #10309tmitch06Participant
i know that this fish is probalbly isn’t a different varient but i was wondering if anyone keeps the glowlight danio also?
July 7, 2007 at 3:54 am #11594celestialdudeParticipantWow!
Thanks for the tip, tmitch06.
Check them some images of them:
http://images.google.com/images?q=glowlight+OR+firebar+OR+%22fire+bar%22+danio+OR+danios
I think these would make a good complement to the Celestial Pearl Danios, in addition to Zebra Danios!
July 17, 2007 at 10:37 pm #11705EllyParticipantAre glowlight danios and glowlight tetras the same thing? (They look the same…) And if so, is the fish actually part of the danio or tetra family? Could they inner breed?
August 19, 2007 at 2:59 pm #11854L168ParticipantThis should be intresting reading, but this could be where glowlight Danios come from and its not natural.
http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/pfk/pages/item.php?news=1224
Mfg Peter
August 19, 2007 at 5:17 pm #11855ste12000ParticipantNo way are glowlight danio’s (Danio choprai) Genetically modified, i have been breeding these lovely fish for about two years and have raised 1000’s. They are a genuine species that has not been mutilated by scientists.
I have seen the Genetically modified glowlight for sale (leopard and zebra) In the flesh they do not glow but look slightly like a albino with a washed out colour.It is under flouresent lighting that they glow.
In no way should we support these modified fish, nature has provided 1000’s of natural species that we can enjoy in aquaria, why we need to modify them is beyond me!August 19, 2007 at 5:25 pm #11856ste12000ParticipantElly the glowlight tetra and the glowlight danio look nothing alike!!! The tetra originates from South America in the backwaters of the river Amazon, the glowlight danio comes from Myanamar which is also where the celestial pearl danio comes from.
Glowlight Tetra
Glowlight danioAugust 19, 2007 at 8:33 pm #11860EllyParticipantOh. Have you seen the danios or tetras that are neon pink and neon orange that have been infused with jellyfish DNA? How does someone do that?!
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y217/Ellythechinchilla/glofish_037_std.jpgAugust 19, 2007 at 8:42 pm #11861ste12000ParticipantThey add the gene from a jellyfish into the embryo while it is still inside the egg casing.
Please do not support these guys by buying these fish if you see them, if the flouresent danios do not sell then the scientists will realise there is no market and stop producing them.
Would people buy flouresent cats or dogs?? No they would not.August 19, 2007 at 8:51 pm #11863EllyParticipantActually, I was just reading about them from the company. They were originally produced to (and they are still trying to get it right) to turn fluorescent when the water they live in is polluted so that scientists can monitor pollution. The fluorescent fish nowadays are not injected with genes, but bred just like any other zebra danio. The injected fish were injected with the fluorescent gene from anemones or jellyfish within minutes of fertilization while still in egg form. I’m pretty sure they didn’t get hurt since they wern’t even formed yet. The injected gene then becomes a part of their DNA that they pass off to their offspring. And Voila! fluorescent fish! I personally like them and I would like to see other fluorescent fish. You have to admit a glowing betta would be pretty sool!
August 19, 2007 at 9:32 pm #11864ste12000ParticipantWhat if they escape into the wild??? Would they breed?? Yes i think they would !!!!
why do we humans have to mess with nature so much. The part about monitoring pollution is complete crap, they need a flouresent light to glow anyway!! the company most probibly have a trademark on the fish and they are selling them for aquariums right now, the only reason these fish were developed was to make money from customers who want the latest fad.
I am sure most serious fishkeepers and scientists are against this fish, i know the Uk’s leading aquatic magazine is campaining against them.
http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/pfk/pages/item.php?news=1217
If you want bright coloured fish fill your tanks with guppies, platys, clown loaches and neons.August 19, 2007 at 11:15 pm #11866atlantis_childParticipantI love bettas the way they are. Besides, they’ve had enough mistreatment already. Betta bowls, sticking them in flower vases, tiny half-gallon aquariams etc. :evil:
My betta is my favorite fish. He’s a gorgeus purple King of the 20 gallon tank, and nothing goes on in his kingdom that he doesn’t know about!– Atlantis Child
August 19, 2007 at 11:20 pm #11867atlantis_childParticipantOh, I’m really, really against this crazy eff’ed up fish business.
If a creature isn’t naturally beautiful to the human eye, the most humans’ should do is selective breeding. Most of the wild ones are gorgeous without though.
Like our little galaxy beauties… Prefect the way the are!
– Atlantis Child
August 20, 2007 at 6:26 am #11868EllyParticipantI think that as long as people are educated about the fish that they keep that there shouldn’t be any problem. The glofish are tropical just like wild zebra danios and couldn’t make it in the wild. If they are eaten by something if they hapen to make it into the wild (which they wouldn’t…) it would be just like if the thing had eaten a regular danio. Nada. I love the natural beauty of fishes and I love that people can choose the prettiest fish and breed them to get even prettier fish. I happen to love guppies and bettas and I love the diversity and ability to change a trait by selective breeding. Back in the day, that’s what people did was create their own fish strains through selective breeding and help to shape the aquarium business that we know today. Now that we have access to new technology people are breeding with different techniques such as gene splicing. It doesn’t hurt the fish. I love the diversity avalible in the fish world and I love that people have breed new strains via selective breeding and gene splicing. I don’t think it is out of control and I don’t think it will ever be. I encourage everyone to breed the best fish they can. Based on hardyness, temperment, size, and color. I think it is great that scientists are trying to monitor our effect on our planet by looking to the natural equipment; fish. I hope that they do find a way to have a small contained group of fishes all around the world so that problems can be caught and fixed sooner. I would sooner see 5 fish turn fluorescent than to see 1,000 fish in the same body of water die. Kudos to natural solutions. So back to my point about education. I challenge all of you on this forum to go out there and educate people in the world about this hobby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let them know how rewarding it is to breed your own beautiful fish and help others know how to care for their fish properly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
On bettas, where did you get a purple betta?!?!?!?!?! I have been searching for a purple half moon and can’t find any… I have been told that a true purple doesn’t exhist. I have one blue half moon (he looked purple when I bought him) and 3 females (one copper, one black devil with full blue irridescent mask, and a red with blue irridescent). It makes me sick to see any fish in a bowl especially a betta or a gold fish. Again, lets educate people about how a fish
should live. It isn’t enought to survive, but to thrive! Educate, educate, educate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!August 20, 2007 at 6:31 am #11869EllyParticipantAlso, if ste12000 had red on in the article posted they would have read that
“Genetically modified daniosRed genetically modified danios are produced in Singapore and Malaysia and contain an extra RFP (Red Fluorescent Protein) gene in their genome from a coral, which causes them to fluoresce pink under certain UV-rich lighting.
The fish are sold legally in the USA by Yorktown Technologies under the trademarked name of GloFish. The apparent flood of illicit GM fish is not in any way connected to GloFish.
Alan Blake of Yorktown Technologies told Practical Fishkeeping: “Yorktown Technologies has worked very hard to responsibly manage the distribution of GloFish fluorescent fish and is very much opposed to the marketing of any GM fish without the appropriate regulatory approval.”
Contrary to some media reports, genetically modified danios are not sterile.
One Practical Fishkeeping reader successfully bred the GM GloFish sold legally under licence in the USA shortly after they were introduced into the trade in 2004.”
Glofish are enhanced with jellyfish genes, not coral, and don’t need fluorescent light to “glow”. No offence.
August 20, 2007 at 4:59 pm #11875ste12000ParticipantThis is complete trash, how can they say that the illicit fish are not connected to them..
How many back street scientists are out there that can manage to splice DNA together in their shed at the bottom of the garden.
And if you read it again carefully you will see….
Red genetically modified danios are produced in Singapore and Malaysia and contain an extra RFP (Red Fluorescent Protein) gene in their genome from a coral, which causes them to fluoresce pink under certain UV-rich lighting.The fact that the company have trademarked the fish and given it the title of glofish just shows that the company are out to make cash and as much as they can. Why do you think they picked the danio to perform this on? ILL TELL YOU WHY..BECAUSE THE DANIO IS THE EASIEST TO SPAWN AND ONE OF THE QUICKEST TO REACH A SELLABLE SIZE, forget the lines about monitoring pollution..Total crap, these danios were made/created to make money from gullible fishkeepers that think it is cool to have a fish that glows.What next?? can we order a cat with two tails or a dog with twelve legs? animals are not playthings and should be left as nature intended.
I do not want to fall out with anyone over this so this will be my last post on the subject.
Elly humans have no right to start messing with genetics or hybrids in the aquatic industry, as you have stated we are currently selective breeding to produce other colours and this should be where it ends. -
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