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The Celestial Pearl Danio Forum • View topic - Hunchback in older CPDs.

Hunchback in older CPDs.

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Hunchback in older CPDs.

Postby Simon » Wed Oct 01, 2014 8:23 pm

Hello Dennis and other forum users.

I have been keeping and breeding CPDs here in Sydney, Australia for about 2 years.
Recently several of my older specimens have developed a distinct hunchback appearance that becomes more pronounced over a period of weeks until they are quite bowed (creating an arc through almost 90 degrees). Eventually they become unable to swim properly and at that point I have euthanised the affected animals. My CPDs are otherwise very healthy. They generally display strong colouration, have successfully bred numerous times and are well fed on a variety of prepared and frozen foods. Water changes and overall conditions are regular and well maintained in every way.

Have you got any suggestions about what is happening here?

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Simon.
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Re: Hunchback in older CPDs.

Postby BallAquatics » Thu Oct 02, 2014 10:53 am

Hi Simon,

While I don't have any scientific proof to back me up, I believe that is just some genetic predisposition in many of the Danionins. I have seen exactly what you speak of in many of the fish I keep. It's not something that I see that often, but it does happen, and it happens to tank raised fish I've had for many generations as well as offspring from wild caught fish. Given that, I don't think it has anything to do with lack of genetic diversity in the fish.

Just my 2 cents, for what it's worth.....

Congratulations on your success with your CPDs! :wink:

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Re: Hunchback in older CPDs.

Postby Simon » Sat Oct 04, 2014 8:29 pm

Thanks Dennis.
That's certainly better than it being a nasty disease such as fish TB!
I have just this moment been watching one of my CPD populations spawning in a bed of hairgrass in a small (230 litre) outdoor pond where I keep them. They are an interesting population as I intervene minimally in their upkeep other than to provide occasional food and small water changes - otherwise they seem to thrive on the natural aquatic fauna that such a pond develops. It is spring time here and the warmer temperatures has them being very lively indeed. Over winter they are so still and quiet that at times I wondered if they'd died off. They've bred in there before and although you obviously get much smaller numbers of fry in a "natural" environment than in an intensive aquarium breeding set up, I suspect that the fry that do survive are the most robust and healthy.
Anyway - thought you'd find that interesting.
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Re: Hunchback in older CPDs.

Postby jonfromhamilton » Sat Oct 18, 2014 5:44 am

I have one showing this hunchback as well and I just jumped on the net tonight to see if I could see what it was.
what a coincidence!
I have had these fish for about 4 months now and only in the past week have I noticed this one just sitting at the top of the tank with the bow in it.

These fish are driving me nuts actually.
When I first got them they were happy as, breeding and everything, then I moved the tank to the other side of the room, re-arranged their rocks and they are all so different, shy, hiding, hunchback, totally off their food.

I have looked on youtube at CPD feeding and they are ravenous for other people, for me they just don't seem to think feeding is a priority.
I have tried blood worms, granules, flakes, frozen baby brine shrimp, nothing seems to get them enthusiastic and I fear they are getting a bit thin.

Anyway if this hunchback thing can be fixed do you know how ?
if it is an old age thing would I be more kind to pull it out of the tank and euthenaise it?
it is pretty still there at the top of the water so I am not sure if it is sick.
it kicks it's tail every now and then just to stay at the same spot in the tank.
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Re: Hunchback in older CPDs.

Postby jonfromhamilton » Sun Oct 26, 2014 3:39 am

well my hunchback danio died.
i came home one day and it was on the bottom of the tank panting so i put it down.
I have one more with a bit of a hunchback, it's frustrating they stop eating. and just hang out by itself at the top of the tank until they get too sick to swim.
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